“Don’t do that to Batman.. we can’t see him lose”: Even Joe Rogan Agreed With One Bold Philosophy of Zack Snyder When It Comes to Ben Affleck’s Ruthless Batman

Zack Snyder revealed the intention behind the iconic Batman scene in 'Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice.'

"Don't do that to Batman.. we can't see him lose": Even Joe Rogan Agreed With One Bold Philosophy of Zack Snyder When It Comes to Ben Affleck's Ruthless Batman
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  • Zack Snyder made Ben Affleck's Batman ruthless in 'Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice' defying the idea of 'Batman can't kill.'
  • Snyder revealed his philosophy behind this approach during an interview with Joe Rogan on the Joe Rogan Experience podcast.
  • Snyder reflected the same ambiguity from 'Batman: The Dark Knight Returns' in his 'Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice.'
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The inherent darkness surrounding Bruce Wayne is one of the most obvious reasons why fans love Batman. And Zack Snyder exploited that trait to the fullest during his tenure at DC. While making the Snyderverse movie Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice, the director put Ben Affleck’s Batman in a chaotic situation that was enough to shudder his moral ground.

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Ben Affleck as Batman
Ben Affleck as Batman

Batman is so very different from Superman but the character needs to maintain God-like prowess to level up with Superman (who is equivalent to God for humankind) and other heroes infused with superpowers. Snyder was candid enough to reveal his philosophy behind making Affleck’s Batman ruthless in the movie.

Zack Snyder Commented On Making Ben Affleck’s Batman Ruthless

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Zack Snyder. Credit: PowerfulJRE/YT

Defying the wildly accepted idea of “Batman can’t kill” was a bold move on Zack Snyder’s part. The director still went on to throw the character into a pit of moral dilemma. It is a general consensus that Batman and Superman are two morally elevated Superheroes of all time with the core philosophy making them what they are— two most distinguished DC heroes. However, the forces of the enemy are not always ready to accept that, thus challenging the root of their philosophical ideals. “Dark Knight Returns there’s a scene where and I copied it kind of in Batman vs Superman where he grabs the M60 he busts through the wall,” Snyder revealed his intention for Batman during a chat with Joe Rogan appearing in the Joe Rogan Experience podcast.

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“I felt that’s what they would say don’t do that to Batman don’t put him in a no-win situation because we don’t want to see him lose like we can’t see him lose. He has to maintain this Godlike status and that’s what the cool thing about Frank Miller. Frank Miller said f*ck it. I’m going to like I’m going to I want to see who this guy.”

Snyder was ready to gamble with the character and he has been quite successful at it. Certainly, Ben Affleck’s Batman offered a lot to the Snyderverse as he retained his prominence for Justice League and Gotham in general.

Zack Snyder Explained The No-Win Scenario Of Batman

Ben Affleck’s Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice scene
Ben Affleck’s Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice scene

Snyder did not hesitate to put Batman in a no-win scenario revisiting almost the same gunpoint scene despite the legacy of the character inherently screaming his moral ideals. But again, moral ambiguity is one of the classic traits that makes a hero formidable and interesting. Snyder explained the situation of Batman during the chat with Rogan. 

“If a guy so you’re saying to me that I’ve got a gun to this kid’s head, you’re Batman. I’m going to, there’s no move, there’s no trick, there’s no throwing the Batarang, there’s no dust ball to distract me, like I’ve just got to pull the trigger and I kill this kid. So, you’re saying in that scenario, Batman, what’s Batman supposed to do? He’s gonna lay down his gun what’s he going to do? Like it’s the guy says to him, I’ll do it I swear it.”

Batman says, “I believe you.” It brought the essence of how far Batman can go to save the kid from the villain’s gunpoint when all the options are exhausted. Snyder revived the scene of Batman: The Dark Knight Returns in his movie as the Jay Oliva animated movie has fascinated the director. Podcast host Rogan agreed with Snyder’s philosophy of creating the hero’s dilemma as well. Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice went on to gross over $872 million at the box office signifying the fact that Snyder’s move worked in his favor.

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