The deterioration of Marvel has been a year-long debate and Joe Rogan has been present in the discussions all the way to the end. As such, his podcast, The Joe Rogan Experience is a hub of talking points and theories as to why the CBM franchise would suddenly turn from an unstoppable production with influential creations into a slacking and rusty machine churning up a lineup of deplorable factory-generated products.
More recently, the podcast host has questioned the creative skills that once catapulted Kevin Feige’s company to the stratosphere of success and fandom.
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Franchises Refuse Originality in Favor of Formulaic Success
While having the journalist-turned-Oscar-winner, Mark Boal as a guest on The Joe Rogan Experience, the show’s host dived into the discussions about whether the writer-producer was ever awarded the opportunity of applying his skills to a big-budget franchise superhero action film. The suggestion is not too far-fetched given how Boal turned his traumatic experience within the U.S. Army into an Academy Award-winning screenplay of The Hurt Locker.
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The former journalist’s expertise with Hollywood then gained steam with the writer producing such gems as Zero Dark Thirty (2012), Detroit (2017), and Triple Frontier (2019). However, when Joe Rogan put forth the question of applying Boal’s creative talents to an action film, the latter claims,
“They don’t need that, they don’t want that, you know what I mean? If I’m running one of those companies, I wouldn’t hire me. You don’t wanna have that conversation. You’re just like, ‘Here’s how we do it, we have a playbook. It’s worked every f**king time, and we’re gonna do the same playbook again.’ And I’d be like, ‘Well, yeah, but can’t we change it upand what if we made it more realistic and what if we try to make it more authentic?’ they be like, ‘bro, we’re selling toys for kids.'”
Joe Rogan corroborates Mark Boal’s claims after the latter goes on to say that once in a while there are a few exceptions when a director’s artistic talent matches their “marketplace power” and these products are the ones that are few and far between, even though it manages to succeed exceedingly. Rogan mentions Zack Snyder’s epic superhero film, Watchmen (2009) while Boal recalls Christopher Nolan’s Dark Knight trilogy.
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Joe Rogan Discusses MCU’s Declining Quality and Future
Mark Boal establishes how big-budget franchises rely more on tried-and-tested experimental formulas and going out on a limb to try something that doesn’t guarantee bringing an equally well-receptive success at the box office is a risk that big productions are simply unwilling to take. Marvel’s rapidly declining ratings after its entire facepalm-worthy Phase Four then come into relevance and the writer says,
“Those systems, they’re factories… Those are really industrial products when you go watch a Marvel movie. There’s a limit to how much any one filmmaker or writer can really change what they’re trying to do with their product.”
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Joe Rogan takes the conversation further by saying, “The more cooks you have in the kitchen, the more influence, the more different kinds of ideas, the more commercialized it becomes.” So in the end, what Marvel attempts to do by delivering similarly scripted products, ultimately fails in the end because of the monotony of the business.
Source: The Joe Rogan Experience