Among some of the famous hero-villain rivalries, the dynamic conflict between Marvel’s Daredevil and the Kingpin holds its own distinguished place. The original Daredevil series delivered numerous unforgettable moments between this formidable duo, creating a legacy that resonated with the audience. However, as enthusiasts eagerly await the unfolding of this epic rivalry in the Marvel Cinematic Universe concerns have arisen, particularly due to their character arcs in the Netflix original and most recently in the Disney+ series Echo.
![Charlie Cox and Vincent D'Onofrio in Netflix's Daredevil](https://fwmedia.fandomwire.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/12061326/Charlie-Cox-and-Vincent-DOnofrio-in-Netflixs-aredevil.png)
Marvel’s Echo Reinforces Kingpin’s Daredevil Narrative
Originating in the comics, Kingpin (Vincent D’Onofrio) has consistently stood as Daredevil’s (Charlie Cox) arch-enemy. The already famous rivalry was heightened even more with its skillful portrayal in Netflix’s Daredevil series. The dynamic between these two characters remains a fan favorite element of the show.
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As these characters transition to the MCU, there have been concerns about how Marvel Studios will integrate them into the superhero franchise. The Netflix show is known for its dark tone and mature themes, earning a TV-MA rating.
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While there have been discussions over how the studio would tone down the violent nature of these characters in the MCU, Kingpin’s recent appearance in the Disney+ miniseries, Echo, has once again raised questions. The series also rated TV-MA, reinforces some elements of the character developed in the original Daredevil series.
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Wilson Fisk and Daredevil are also expected to appear in Tom Holland’s Spider-Man 4. However, given the treatment of these characters thus far in the MCU, fans are now conflicted over how their rivalry would evolve in the upcoming MCU projects.
Daredevil-Kingpin Rivalry Sparks Concern Among Fans
In addition to their next appearance in Daredevil: Born Again, Daredevil and Kingpin are also expected to join Tom Holland in Spider-Man 4. Several rumors also suggest that both Daredevil and Spider-Man could team up to fight against Wilson Fisk. And fans are concerned how the studio would tone down Kingpin’s character in the MCU movie.
![Vincent D'Onofrio as Kingpin in Daredevil](https://fwmedia.fandomwire.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/14094545/kingpin.jpg)
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While shows like Daredevil and Echo hold TV-MA ratings, Marvel Studios has kept a distance from mature ratings. Fans have shared their concern regarding the same. While many believe that the studio could bring the narrative to life effectively, others have argued against it.
What I’ve been thinking is if Daredevil and Kingpin are actually in Spider-Man 4, how will Kingpin be toned down so much after mostly seeing him in TV-MA projects.🤔
Would they dare to make a more mature Spider-Man movie? (I’d be so down for that, but I don’t think Sony will… pic.twitter.com/VfjrhrdApk
— Lachesis (@LachesisHD) January 13, 2024
Don’t forget that he was in Spiderverse, and look what he did to the young Peter Parker of that world 😟 pic.twitter.com/29WJKTY1nM
— Adam (@adam_dwane) January 14, 2024
They cooked once with pg-13 they can do it again pic.twitter.com/gH1erXNSO0
— Snow (@EryxV2) January 14, 2024
i honestly don’t think it’ll be that hard. have him be the same tone, but obviously without all of the blood
— mordecool (@mordecooooool) January 14, 2024
Sony will allow it because the upcoming kraven the hunter movie is rated r. So if that’s going to be there test maybe they will allow it in spider man 4 but Sony willing then the question becomes is Disney willing?
— Anthony Pennington (@chefanthonyWV) January 14, 2024
They don’t really need it to be rated R, pg-13 let’s you do a lot it’s just that marvel is scared to use it
— Scout (@ScoutFNM) January 14, 2024
They’ll just portray him as they portrayed him in Hawkeye. He’ll be scary but he won’t be doing what he did in that GIF tho lol
— Ravens/Jenna Ortega stan (@BmoreBro96) January 13, 2024
Discussions have also proposed interpreting the character in a manner similar to his appearance in the TV series Hawkeye. However, with Deadpool 3 being the first R-rated movie of the franchise, there’s growing anticipation for more such content in the Marvel Cinematic Universe.
Daredevil and Echo are available to stream on Disney+.